Comments on: What Next? Bush and Cheney Should Resign http://www.thecherryorchard.org/2006/12/08/what-next-bush-and-cheney-should-resign/ A Fresh Look at News, Politics and History Fri, 30 Jul 2010 05:05:51 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.3 by: anonymous http://www.thecherryorchard.org/2006/12/08/what-next-bush-and-cheney-should-resign/#comment-918 Fri, 09 Feb 2007 20:14:43 +0000 http://www.thecherryorchard.org/2006/12/08/what-next-bush-and-cheney-should-resign/#comment-918 Maybe it is time to restore the will of the People. Remember 2000? A week ago this was reported online, and it evidences rigging in Ohio: OHIO 2004: 6.15% Kerry-Bush vote-switch found in probability study. Defining the vote outcome probabilities of wrong-precinct voting has revealed, in a sample of 166,953 votes (1/34th of the Ohio vote), the Kerry-Bush margin changes 6.15% when the population is sorted by probable outcomes of wrong-precinct voting. The Kerry to Bush 6.15% vote-switch differential is seen when the large sample is sorted by probability a Kerry wrong-precinct vote counts for Bush. When the same large voter sample is sorted by the probability Kerry votes count for third-party candidates, Kerry votes are instead equal in both subsets. Read the revised article with graphs of new findings: The 2004 Ohio Presidential Election: Cuyahoga County Analysis How Kerry Votes Were Switched to Bush Votes http://jqjacobs.net/politics/ohio.html A PowerPoint too: http://jqjacobs.net/politics/vote_switching.ppt Maybe it is time to restore the will of the People. Remember 2000?

A week ago this was reported online, and it evidences rigging in Ohio:

OHIO 2004: 6.15% Kerry-Bush vote-switch found in probability study.

Defining the vote outcome probabilities of wrong-precinct voting has revealed, in a sample of 166,953 votes (1/34th of the Ohio vote), the Kerry-Bush margin changes 6.15% when the population is sorted by probable outcomes of wrong-precinct voting.

The Kerry to Bush 6.15% vote-switch differential is seen when the large sample is sorted by probability a Kerry wrong-precinct vote counts for Bush. When the same large voter sample is sorted by the probability Kerry votes count for third-party candidates, Kerry votes are instead equal in both subsets.

Read the revised article with graphs of new findings:

The 2004 Ohio Presidential Election: Cuyahoga County Analysis
How Kerry Votes Were Switched to Bush Votes

http://jqjacobs.net/politics/ohio.html

A PowerPoint too:

http://jqjacobs.net/politics/vote_switching.ppt

]]> by: Steve Plonk http://www.thecherryorchard.org/2006/12/08/what-next-bush-and-cheney-should-resign/#comment-905 Sat, 20 Jan 2007 03:12:14 +0000 http://www.thecherryorchard.org/2006/12/08/what-next-bush-and-cheney-should-resign/#comment-905 Verrry interesting...It would be of some note to realize, a month later, that the "Scooter" Libby case is up to the docket. I wonder what is going to happen in reaction to a possible conviction of Libby. Are other heads, besides Rumsfeld going to roll? What's the frequency? Will it rival the "hundred heads that rolled" in the Reagan administration? Verrry interesting…It would be of some note to realize, a month later, that the “Scooter” Libby case is up to the docket. I wonder what is going to happen in reaction to a possible conviction of Libby. Are other heads, besides Rumsfeld going to roll? What’s the frequency? Will it rival the “hundred heads that rolled” in the Reagan administration?

]]> by: brooklyn http://www.thecherryorchard.org/2006/12/08/what-next-bush-and-cheney-should-resign/#comment-878 Sat, 16 Dec 2006 02:14:50 +0000 http://www.thecherryorchard.org/2006/12/08/what-next-bush-and-cheney-should-resign/#comment-878 Then I'm gonna stack my flow. Then I’m gonna stack my flow.

]]> by: Caryn http://www.thecherryorchard.org/2006/12/08/what-next-bush-and-cheney-should-resign/#comment-877 Thu, 14 Dec 2006 03:11:40 +0000 http://www.thecherryorchard.org/2006/12/08/what-next-bush-and-cheney-should-resign/#comment-877 And then what? And then what?

]]> by: Calico Kid http://www.thecherryorchard.org/2006/12/08/what-next-bush-and-cheney-should-resign/#comment-875 Mon, 11 Dec 2006 04:38:29 +0000 http://www.thecherryorchard.org/2006/12/08/what-next-bush-and-cheney-should-resign/#comment-875 Funny story about nothing. I got off work in Hollywood (Friday, 1972) went to the nearest bank to cash my paycheck. They wanna see i.d., all I have is drivers license. "What about draft card" says the teller. "What?" "You're eighteen" he says "you have to register." So I did. Then later lost my billfold (and all its contents) at some kid's house up in Altadena. Never heard anything more if my number'd come up in the draft or not. Never bothered to ask. Moved back to Nebraska, became a hippie. The war was really winding down, weren't even looking for draftees by then. My neighbor volunteered in '73, told me it was just a mop-up action at that point. Funny story about nothing. I got off work in Hollywood (Friday, 1972) went to the nearest bank to cash my paycheck. They wanna see i.d., all I have is drivers license. “What about draft card” says the teller. “What?” “You’re eighteen” he says “you have to register.”

So I did. Then later lost my billfold (and all its contents) at some kid’s house up in Altadena. Never heard anything more if my number’d come up in the draft or not. Never bothered to ask.

Moved back to Nebraska, became a hippie. The war was really winding down, weren’t even looking for draftees by then. My neighbor volunteered in ‘73, told me it was just a mop-up action at that point.

]]> by: brooklyn http://www.thecherryorchard.org/2006/12/08/what-next-bush-and-cheney-should-resign/#comment-874 Mon, 11 Dec 2006 01:35:01 +0000 http://www.thecherryorchard.org/2006/12/08/what-next-bush-and-cheney-should-resign/#comment-874 Very interesting, Calico. I think I'll look up some other sources about the later years of the Vietnam War (I'm pretty knowledgable about the earlier part, but could know a lot more about this phase) and see what I find. I thought the war was still raging in many ways from 72 to 75, but I know the activity level had considerably dropped. Assuming what you say is true, that would pretty much defeat my theory that the Watergate scandal had a "functional purpose" of forcing an end to the war. I expect to write more about this soon ... Very interesting, Calico. I think I’ll look up some other sources about the later years of the Vietnam War (I’m pretty knowledgable about the earlier part, but could know a lot more about this phase) and see what I find. I thought the war was still raging in many ways from 72 to 75, but I know the activity level had considerably dropped.

Assuming what you say is true, that would pretty much defeat my theory that the Watergate scandal had a “functional purpose” of forcing an end to the war.

I expect to write more about this soon …

]]> by: Calico Kid http://www.thecherryorchard.org/2006/12/08/what-next-bush-and-cheney-should-resign/#comment-872 Sat, 09 Dec 2006 01:26:39 +0000 http://www.thecherryorchard.org/2006/12/08/what-next-bush-and-cheney-should-resign/#comment-872 Part 1. Bush/Cheney cannot resign. That is an idealistic and moral concept or slogan. But they were elected by idiots and/or crooked ballots and judges. Idiots must learn from their mistakes. As Michael Moore said, people must die so that others may learn. Christiane Amanpour stated in 1999 that Bush didn’t have the intelligence to be seriously considered for high political office. No one listened. We’re listening now, and seeing the results, perhaps even learning. It’s a hard lesson. Segue - those of us who remember Nixon, know what Republicans are. Part 2. Generalities help to understand things, but they are inexact. The American revolution for example, has little specific resemblance to the Russian revolution. A fairly unpopular Richard Nixon ran for re-election with the promise of a “secret plan” to end the Vietnam War. But this was simply another Kissinger lie. (I remember this as I was 18 and eligible for the draft.) Here is a factual timeline from Wikipedia: 1. 1972 - the withdrawal of American troops, who numbered less than 100,000 at the beginning of the year, was continued as scheduled. By June only six infantry battalions remained. On 12 August, the last American ground combat troops left the country. 2. 1972 - by November 30, force levels were down to 27,000. 3. 1973 - all US troops were gone from Vietnam by the end of the year. 4. 1974 - In May the House Judiciary Committee opened formal and public impeachment hearings against Richard Nixon. 5. 1974 - In August, Nixon resigned. The War in Vietnam (as far as US ground troops participating in any armed combat) had been over for almost exaclty one year. I know this doesn’t fit your view of the Nixon impeachment proceedings, but these are the facts, and they are indisputable. Part 1. Bush/Cheney cannot resign. That is an idealistic and moral concept or slogan. But they were elected by idiots and/or crooked ballots and judges. Idiots must learn from their mistakes. As Michael Moore said, people must die so that others may learn. Christiane Amanpour stated in 1999 that Bush didn’t have the intelligence to be seriously considered for high political office. No one listened. We’re listening now, and seeing the results, perhaps even learning. It’s a hard lesson.

Segue - those of us who remember Nixon, know what Republicans are.

Part 2. Generalities help to understand things, but they are inexact. The American revolution for example, has little specific resemblance to the Russian revolution.

A fairly unpopular Richard Nixon ran for re-election with the promise of a “secret plan” to end the Vietnam War. But this was simply another Kissinger lie. (I remember this as I was 18 and eligible for the draft.) Here is a factual timeline from Wikipedia:

1. 1972 - the withdrawal of American troops, who numbered less than 100,000 at the beginning of the year, was continued as scheduled. By June only six infantry battalions remained. On 12 August, the last American ground combat troops left the country.
2. 1972 - by November 30, force levels were down to 27,000.
3. 1973 - all US troops were gone from Vietnam by the end of the year.
4. 1974 - In May the House Judiciary Committee opened formal and public impeachment hearings against Richard Nixon.
5. 1974 - In August, Nixon resigned. The War in Vietnam (as far as US ground troops participating in any armed combat) had been over for almost exaclty one year.

I know this doesn’t fit your view of the Nixon impeachment proceedings, but these are the facts, and they are indisputable.

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